Friday, September 13, 2013

What is Torture?

I went to see Zero Dark Thirty when it was in the theaters.



If you've seen the movie, you know the first half hour or so is very hard to watch. 

Watching it again tonight I am stuck by what is and what is not considered torture. Everyone remembers the uproar over waterboarding. 

But in watching the methods depicted in the film, the waterboarding was not any worse than the other forms of "interrogation".  Quite honestly in my eyes all of it seemed like torture. 

So for the first thirty minutes the movie makes you squirm. 

But at about the one hour mark, the impact of seeing the group of CIA agents being blown up, nothing in the first thirty minutes of the movie suddenly seems to be out of line. 



And it only gets worse. By the time they get to the scenes in Pakistan, I felt like the terrorists were being treated like royalty during the first thirty minutes. 

So what is torture?  I don't have a clue. Why is being strung up with your arms above your head for hours or being locked in a small box for days not considered torture but having water poured over a cloth in your head is?

These weren't men we were "torturing", they are animals.  






5 comments:

Coffeypot said...

Torture to me is listening to Obama or McCain speak.

Ed Bonderenka said...

No. They were men.
That's important.
Men act that way sometimes.
As for torture, since a child I always thought torture involved dismemberment or permanent disfiguration. I know that is not the definition.
These "tortured" men came out "intact".
They were threatened and coerced.
And I agree with Coffeypot.

lotta joy said...

True torture would be arming us women with pointy objects and giving us twenty minutes with them.

CnC said...

Water boarding is effective, so effective that the military stopped using it as a training method on our special forces. It was too demoralizing on our troops because it works.
When I was in Basic training they put us through POW camp training and slapped, punched and PT ed our asses off for 2 whole hours. Was that torture? One mans torture is another mans training or interrogation method.
I say if the assholes don't like getting water poured up their snouts, then they should stick their brand of religion up their ass and stop trying force it down every bodies mouth.

In a side note I finally did post something today. Nothing Earthshattering, just my usual drivel.

CnC said...

Water boarding is effective, so effective that the military stopped using it as a training method on our special forces. It was too demoralizing on our troops because it works.
When I was in Basic training they put us through POW camp training and slapped, punched and PT ed our asses off for 2 whole hours. Was that torture? One mans torture is another mans training or interrogation method.
I say if the assholes don't like getting water poured up their snouts, then they should stick their brand of religion up their ass and stop trying force it down every bodies mouth.

In a side note I finally did post something today. Nothing Earthshattering, just my usual drivel.

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